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Eights on Pylons: Pivotal Altitude and Wind Correction

Eights on pylons is a commercial pilot maneuver where the wingtip appears to pivot on a fixed ground point; the key to flying it correctly is understanding and using pivotal altitude, which changes with groundspeed.

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Speed versus pivotal altitude.
Image: FAA Airplane Flying Handbook (FAA-H-8083-3), Figure 7-12 — public domain

Eights on pylons is one of the most intellectually satisfying maneuvers on the commercial pilot practical test. Unlike ground reference maneuvers such as turns around a point, which require constant bank adjustments to maintain a fixed radius, eights on pylons focuses on a different goal entirely: keeping the extended wingtip line aimed precisely at a selected ground reference point called a pylon. When flown correctly, the wingtip appears to pivot on that pylon as if connected by an invisible rod. The secret to making that happen is flying at exactly the right altitude — the pivotal altitude.

Pivotal altitude is the specific altitude above ground level at which, for a given groundspeed, the line of sight from the cockpit along the longitudinal axis of the aircraft, extended through the wingtip, appears to remain fixed on a ground point during a banked turn. It is not an arbitrary number — it is a direct mathematical consequence of your groundspeed. The FAA formula (from the Airplane Flying Handbook) expresses this relationship: pivotal altitude in feet equals groundspeed in knots squared, divided by 11.3. So at 100 knots groundspeed, pivotal altitude is approximately 885 feet AGL. At 90 knots it drops to roughly 717 feet AGL. You do not need to memorize the formula for the checkride, but you absolutely must understand what it means: faster groundspeed requires higher altitude; slower groundspeed requires lower altitude.

Why it matters

Because wind constantly changes your groundspeed around the figure-eight, your pivotal altitude is never constant throughout the maneuver. On the downwind side of the pylon your groundspeed is higher, so the correct pivotal altitude is higher. On the upwind side it is lower. This means you must continuously climb and descend slightly as you fly around each pylon — not by chasing an arbitrary altitude on the altimeter, but by watching the pylon reference itself.

The key sight picture is everything. If the pylon appears to move forward (toward the nose), you are too low — add a little back pressure to climb. If the pylon appears to slide rearward (toward the tail), you are too high — ease forward to descend. Bank angle is adjusted only to keep the wingtip pointed at the pylon as the altitude changes cause the radius to shift slightly. You select two pylons roughly 500–1,000 feet apart, fly a figure-eight ground track between them, and transition smoothly from one circle to the next over the crossover point.

Pylon selection matters. Choose two prominent ground references at roughly the same elevation, in an area free of obstacles and away from congested areas. The entry is typically made at the correct pivotal altitude, wings level, on a 45-degree angle to the line between the two pylons, at a groundspeed representative of normal cruise.

Memory aid

"High and fast, low and slow" — when your groundspeed is high (tailwind), you need a higher pivotal altitude. When your groundspeed is low (headwind), you need a lower pivotal altitude. If the pylon moves forward, go higher. If the pylon slides back, go lower.

Common test traps

  • Confusing eights on pylons with turns around a point. Turns around a point maintain a constant radius by varying bank. Eights on pylons maintains a visual reference line to a fixed pylon by adjusting altitude — there is no predetermined radius requirement.
  • Thinking bank angle controls the pylon reference. Bank angle is adjusted to follow the pylon as altitude changes affect the turning radius, but it is altitude — not bank — that corrects a wandering pylon sight picture.
  • Forgetting that pivotal altitude changes with wind. A common test question asks what happens to pivotal altitude on the downwind leg. The answer: it increases, because groundspeed is higher on the downwind side.
  • Misapplying the formula direction. The formula GS²÷11.3 uses groundspeed in knots, not miles per hour. Using mph would give you an incorrect (and dangerously high) altitude value. Always use knots.

Frequently asked questions

What is pivotal altitude in eights on pylons?

Pivotal altitude is the specific altitude above ground level at which, from the pilot's line of sight along the longitudinal axis extended through the wingtip, the wingtip appears to pivot on a fixed point on the ground without any apparent fore or aft movement. It is determined solely by the aircraft's groundspeed, using the formula: pivotal altitude (in feet) equals groundspeed (in knots) squared divided by 11.3. Because groundspeed changes with wind, pivotal altitude is not a fixed number throughout the maneuver — it rises when groundspeed increases and drops when groundspeed decreases. The Airplane Flying Handbook emphasizes that understanding this relationship is fundamental to performing eights on pylons correctly.

How do you correct for wind during eights on pylons?

In eights on pylons, wind correction is accomplished by adjusting altitude rather than by using rudder or aileron to crab, as in other ground reference maneuvers. When the aircraft is flying into the wind, groundspeed decreases and pivotal altitude drops, so the pilot descends slightly to maintain the wingtip on the pylon; when flying downwind, groundspeed increases and pivotal altitude rises, requiring a climb. The pilot also banks more steeply on the downwind side of each eight and more shallowly on the upwind side to maintain a consistent radius around each pylon. These altitude and bank adjustments together keep the wingtip locked on the pylon throughout the figure-eight ground track.

What's the difference between eights on pylons and eights around pylons?

Eights around pylons (also called eights around a point) is a ground reference maneuver in which the pilot maintains a constant radius circular path around each pylon by varying bank angle and using wind-correction crabbing, always keeping the pylons at a roughly 90-degree angle from the wingtip. Eights on pylons, by contrast, is a more advanced commercial pilot maneuver where the pilot fixes the line of sight from the cockpit reference point directly to the pylon, allowing groundspeed-driven altitude changes — not crabbing — to keep the wingtip pivoting precisely on the pylon. The FAA's Airplane Flying Handbook notes that eights on pylons are not a ground track maneuver at all; the ground track is a byproduct of correctly managing pivotal altitude. Eights on pylons is a required maneuver on the Commercial Pilot Airplane Practical Test.

See also

FAA source

Airplane Flying Handbook (FAA-H-8083-3), Chapter 10 — Performance Maneuvers (Eights on Pylons section).

This page is an original, plain-English summary grounded in the public-domain FAA handbook cited above. Click the citation to open the official FAA handbook PDF. It is a study aid, not a substitute for the official handbook or the regulations.

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